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	<title>Comments on: New York&#039;s OBESITY TAX&#8230;social engineering or prudent fiscal policy?</title>
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		<title>By: DR</title>
		<link>http://www.healthhabits.ca/2008/12/16/new-yorks-obesity-taxsocial-engineering-or-prudent-fiscal-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-1066</link>
		<dc:creator>DR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It definitely isn&#039;t a simple topic.

Personally, I can&#039;t stand the gov&#039;t telling me how to live my life. But if we could prevent our kids from growing up fat, unhealthy and prone to various chronic diseases....

I think we keep coming back to the same 2 problems

1. What the medical establishment tells us about the cause of obesity is WRONG
2. Personal responsibility has gone the way of the dodo bird - people, corporations, government, etc..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It definitely isn&#8217;t a simple topic.</p>
<p>Personally, I can&#8217;t stand the gov&#8217;t telling me how to live my life. But if we could prevent our kids from growing up fat, unhealthy and prone to various chronic diseases&#8230;.</p>
<p>I think we keep coming back to the same 2 problems</p>
<p>1. What the medical establishment tells us about the cause of obesity is WRONG<br />
2. Personal responsibility has gone the way of the dodo bird &#8211; people, corporations, government, etc..</p>
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		<title>By: DR</title>
		<link>http://www.healthhabits.ca/2008/12/16/new-yorks-obesity-taxsocial-engineering-or-prudent-fiscal-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-1065</link>
		<dc:creator>DR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Brit,

I read that piece. I also saw another one where someone suggested that Prez-Elect Obama name Michael Pollan as the head of the USDA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brit,</p>
<p>I read that piece. I also saw another one where someone suggested that Prez-Elect Obama name Michael Pollan as the head of the USDA.</p>
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		<title>By: DR</title>
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		<dc:creator>DR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, where to begin?

My dear Obnoxious American reader:

1. If you are going to insult my audience by calling them &lt;strong&gt;imbeciles&lt;/strong&gt;, could you at least &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imbecile&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;spell imbecile / imbecil correctly&lt;/a&gt;

2. Your claim that Governor Patterson doesn&#039;t have the &quot;right&quot; to influence your dietary choices is moot at best. &lt;strong&gt;In theory&lt;/strong&gt;, Ron Paul and I would agree with you that we have allowed / encouraged our governments to create virtual nanny states out of both our countries. However, &lt;strong&gt;in practice&lt;/strong&gt;, your government has been telling you what you can put into your body for a very long time....the war against drugs, cigarette taxes, liquor taxes, federal tax dollars spent to subsidize certain agricultural crops while neglecting others, etc...

3. Self-righteous...hmmm, well, I am pretty confident in my own POV. Maybe I am self righteous?.... But, am I intolerant of others??? ...I don&#039;t know. Maybe if I had an example of intolerance to compare myself to. Now where can I find an example of intolerance???

Anyway, glad you dropped by. Feel free to leave a comment anytime.

Merry Christmas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, where to begin?</p>
<p>My dear Obnoxious American reader:</p>
<p>1. If you are going to insult my audience by calling them <strong>imbeciles</strong>, could you at least <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imbecile" rel="nofollow">spell imbecile / imbecil correctly</a></p>
<p>2. Your claim that Governor Patterson doesn&#8217;t have the &#8220;right&#8221; to influence your dietary choices is moot at best. <strong>In theory</strong>, Ron Paul and I would agree with you that we have allowed / encouraged our governments to create virtual nanny states out of both our countries. However, <strong>in practice</strong>, your government has been telling you what you can put into your body for a very long time&#8230;.the war against drugs, cigarette taxes, liquor taxes, federal tax dollars spent to subsidize certain agricultural crops while neglecting others, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>3. Self-righteous&#8230;hmmm, well, I am pretty confident in my own POV. Maybe I am self righteous?&#8230;. But, am I intolerant of others??? &#8230;I don&#8217;t know. Maybe if I had an example of intolerance to compare myself to. Now where can I find an example of intolerance???</p>
<p>Anyway, glad you dropped by. Feel free to leave a comment anytime.</p>
<p>Merry Christmas</p>
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		<title>By: The Obnoxious American</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Obnoxious American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really can&#039;t believe how idiotic the author of this article is.  But I am even more amazed by the even dumber flock of imbecils chattering in agreement with this smug and inane drivel.

We are in the midst of a recession, and this idiot governor, who is also increasing welfare benefits btw, is passing an obesity tax on people buying soda?  Huh?  Given the obesity issue that the government of NY itself seems to have (billions in debt, large, useless programs, etc), it would seem that would be a more apt place to trim the fat as it were.

What happened to the land of the free?  If you zombies ever woke up from your large government sweet dreams you&#039;d realize that this is a direct assault on your freedoms.  What&#039;s next?  Legislating whether gravy and glucose rich mashed potatoes are OK on thanksgiving?  Perhaps we will need a stuffing permit.

Government Paterson has no right to tell me what I should be eating, nor penalizing me for those choices (and incidentally, I work out every day and do not drink soda of any kind - NOT obese), and neither do self righteous, &quot;fat appeasement crowd&quot; lambasting, non-Americans like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really can&#8217;t believe how idiotic the author of this article is.  But I am even more amazed by the even dumber flock of imbecils chattering in agreement with this smug and inane drivel.</p>
<p>We are in the midst of a recession, and this idiot governor, who is also increasing welfare benefits btw, is passing an obesity tax on people buying soda?  Huh?  Given the obesity issue that the government of NY itself seems to have (billions in debt, large, useless programs, etc), it would seem that would be a more apt place to trim the fat as it were.</p>
<p>What happened to the land of the free?  If you zombies ever woke up from your large government sweet dreams you&#8217;d realize that this is a direct assault on your freedoms.  What&#8217;s next?  Legislating whether gravy and glucose rich mashed potatoes are OK on thanksgiving?  Perhaps we will need a stuffing permit.</p>
<p>Government Paterson has no right to tell me what I should be eating, nor penalizing me for those choices (and incidentally, I work out every day and do not drink soda of any kind &#8211; NOT obese), and neither do self righteous, &#8220;fat appeasement crowd&#8221; lambasting, non-Americans like you.</p>
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		<title>By: Brit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, forgot to add--the NY Times had an op-ed column about this, in case you were interested:  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/18/opinion/18kristof.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, forgot to add&#8211;the NY Times had an op-ed column about this, in case you were interested:  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/18/opinion/18kristof.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/18/opinion/18kristof.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might partly be because I&#039;m overweight myself, but any type of &quot;obesity tax&quot; makes me uncomfortable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might partly be because I&#8217;m overweight myself, but any type of &#8220;obesity tax&#8221; makes me uncomfortable.</p>
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		<title>By: DR</title>
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		<dc:creator>DR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read another article with the governor where he speaks about putting these tax revenues back into health programs, but, somehow I have a feeling they are just going to end up in the general revenue pot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read another article with the governor where he speaks about putting these tax revenues back into health programs, but, somehow I have a feeling they are just going to end up in the general revenue pot.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess one argument could be that they could use those funds for medical treatment of obesity, diabetes etc. However, with a medical system like the USA&#039;s its hard to argue that case too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess one argument could be that they could use those funds for medical treatment of obesity, diabetes etc. However, with a medical system like the USA&#8217;s its hard to argue that case too.</p>
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		<title>By: Crabby McSlacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crabby McSlacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if it&#039;s just a money grab, I can&#039;t help thinking that it seems like an appealing idea.  And it&#039;s not actually a &quot;fat&quot; tax, in that thin people drink that crap too.  I know you can&#039;t legislate people&#039;s health piecemeal, but it seems like economically the incentives right now are all in the wrong places.  We subsidize corn, junk food is cheap, and we make it impossible for small healthy local growers to compete with the industrial giants.

But we all end up paying for health costs later down the line.  Heck, if they can tax cigarettes, soda&#039;s seem like a good target too.

Maybe they should lower the tax on  wine to make up for it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if it&#8217;s just a money grab, I can&#8217;t help thinking that it seems like an appealing idea.  And it&#8217;s not actually a &#8220;fat&#8221; tax, in that thin people drink that crap too.  I know you can&#8217;t legislate people&#8217;s health piecemeal, but it seems like economically the incentives right now are all in the wrong places.  We subsidize corn, junk food is cheap, and we make it impossible for small healthy local growers to compete with the industrial giants.</p>
<p>But we all end up paying for health costs later down the line.  Heck, if they can tax cigarettes, soda&#8217;s seem like a good target too.</p>
<p>Maybe they should lower the tax on  wine to make up for it!</p>
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